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    Talk To Her by Pedro Almodovar

    Review by Chris Knipp

    Pedro Almodovar's `Hable con ella' (`Talk to Her') would be worth seeing if only for the chance to hear and see the silky voiced Brazilian, Caetano Veloso, deliver a suavely wonderful song halfway through. But there are other pleasures. Almodovar's cinematography has never been more handsome, or his plot construction neater. What it all adds up to is anybody's guess, but the craftsmanship is a source of constant sensual pleasure. Everything in this movie is exceptionally glossy and perfect looking. Almodovar delights in bright colors and a look of hyper-real cleanness. The odd Spaniard is at the top of his game, and one doesn't have to be a fan to enjoy and admire what he has wrought. Many of the familiar themes are there: the man of uncertain sexuality obsessed by his mother; sexuality; fetishism; accidents; hospitals; bullfights; death.

    We begin with the lovingly photographed finale of a strange balletic opera about somnambulism, during which two strangers happen to be sitting next to each other in the audience, one man watching admiringly as the other weeps. The admiring watcher turns out to be Benigno (Javier Cámara), and the sensitive weeper is Marco Zualago (DarúŒ Grandinetti). It's Almodóvar's conceit that these two men, linked at first only by their mutual interest in this campy stage performance, are to become involved more and more deeply as the movie progresses.

    At the heart of the story is an implausible sequence of events. Benigno's previous contact with women has come exclusively through his caring for his mother for many years at home. Now he is a nurse in a clinic where several women lie in comas, and he lovingly cares for one of them, Alicia (Leonor Watling), eventually falling in love with her and - absurdly -- wanting to marry her, though she still remains in a vegetative state. He previously had watched her training in a ballet school across the street from his house and -- a rather far-fetched coincidence --witnessed the accident that sent her to the clinic. Equally implausibly, Lucia is eventually discovered to be pregnant and Benigno is jailed for raping her in the hospital. Childbirth brings her out of the coma, though the baby dies, and she eventually returns to the ballet school, but by this time Benigno is in prison - a sophisticated modern prison of the country club type - and he remains tragically unaware of the positive outcome his transgression has brought about.

    The two men become friends in the clinic because Marco comes there to attend upon another woman in a coma, a female bullfighter, whose lover he had become, though she continued to be fatalistically obsessed by a caddish former lover and was gored as a result of a suicidal gesture of going down on her knees before the bull even came into the ring. All this we witness, telegraphed to us in scenes of bright hyper-reality.
    Though Almodóvar coyly suggests otherwise, there is something unmistakably gay about both Marco and Benigno, and particularly Benigno. Marco is seen as macho, but we aren't fooled. After all, he is the one who was crying. It's his girlfriend the bullfighter who was the one with the cojones. At the end Marco and Benigno's greatest bond is with each other. The director plays with the masks gay men have to wear in his macho, Catholic country.

    In keeping with the glossy, heightened visual style, everything about this movie is completely operatic. As a viewer, one correspondingly feels compelled to remain rapt and passive. One simply has to watch the whole business unfold with willingly suspended disbelief. One enters into Almodóvar's peculiar and distinctive world, a world that is very Spanish and very gay, very stylized and elegant, and often very bizarre. The film's persistent image is of Benigno bathing and massaging Alicia's beautiful, inert body, which he does with great patience, love, and art. Is this perfect love, as he believes? Benigno's attitude is both monk-like and sensual. Eventually he loses his cool, but we don't see that actually happen, and everything is handled with the ultimate in taste and restraint.

    The fetishism of Buñuel has been reborn in Almodóvar. The nurse's obsessive care for his unconscious patient is fetishistic, and so is the dressing of the female bullfighter, a quintessentially Spanish ritual which Almodóvar has beautifully filmed. Benigno's obsession with Alicia is inspired by a silent film, `The Shrinking Lover,' in which a tiny man makes love to a normal sized woman by entering her vagina. This black and white film depicting a fetishized man and a fetishized giant female body is exquisitely invented by Almodóvar. `Hable con ella' is beautiful filmmaking at every point.

    But the whole story, like Benigno's life, shows a strange detachment from reality. Benigno, as his name implies, is benign, harmless - or at least well meaning. But his disconnectedness from reality proves dangerous, punishable. It is odd how the movie celebrates this slightly mad man, yet it does, and the actor, Javier Cámara - self possessed, methodical, overstuffed, a little eunuch-like, yet discreetly sexual - is ideal and compelling in the role. Dario Grandinetti as Marco is somewhat less satisfying. His machismo is unconvincing. He seems too consciously to be modeling his studiedly casual outfits, and his fascination with the prima donna bullfighter is covertly camp. Geraldine Chaplin does an elegant turn as the Martha Graham-like ballet teacher of Alicia, the dancer in a coma.

    One leaves `Talk to Her' feeling refreshed and calmed because Almodóvar takes us with such assurance and delicacy through his peculiar, exquisite world. He has unmistakably undergone a marked evolution since his 1988 `Mujeres al borde di un ataque de nervios' (`Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown,') and similar entertaining follies. This is a restrained, serene, rather hypnotic film, a more mature and self assured work than anything that has come before. One is still left with a sense of puzzlement, of possible pointlessness, but one has been taken to a very special place, where one feels there may, in time, be something important to be learned.
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    The trailer has gotten me interested in seeing "Talk to Her". Pedro has been hit & miss with me- "Live Flesh" impressing me the most.

    I'm guessing Talk to Her will win him some new fans- it looks like a polished art film, and that should give his cult following more to carp about. I hope it's as good as I think it is....
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    This is what it's all about....*SPOILERS*

    I have some concerns about "Talk to Her".

    1. Did that nurse who "took care of" his patient REALLY do it? It's never explained!! Am I supposed to assume that he was guilty but it was OK, and he's a good guy? If so, then I might have to write Mr. Almodovar a strong letter.

    2. How can that girl be so normal after what happened? Was she so unconcious that she "never knew a thing"? I find this stretching the limits of reality. (although, I must admit I've never even considered such events unfolding in hospitals)

    3. Why did his friend visit him in jail? If that was me man, I would move to Siberia-the vibes in that town were so bad, and the drama.....shit. This is why they razed Jeffery Dahmer's apartment building!

    4. To Almodovar's credit, he made a masterpiece.
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    Re: Talk To Her by Pedro Almodovar

    Originally posted by Review

    though she still remains in a vegetative state. He previously had watched her training in a ballet school across the street from his house and -- a rather far-fetched coincidence --witnessed the accident that sent her to the clinic. Equally implausibly, Lucia is
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    Did Benigno really witness the accident? During his recounting of it to Marco, he said that Alicia got in a car accident on a rainy day, but I don't remember his saying he witnessed it. (Although the scene in which he's following her home certainly presages what's to come ... when she's running across the street, dodging in and out of cars.)
    I guess that's just a minor detail, though ... the important part is what you say about everything's implausibility.

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    Re: This is what it's all about....*SPOILERS*

    Originally posted by Johann
    I have some concerns about "Talk to Her".

    1. Did that nurse who "took care of" his patient REALLY do it? It's never explained!! Am I supposed to assume that he was guilty but it was OK, and he's a good guy? If so, then I might have to write Mr. Almodovar a strong letter.

    2. How can that girl be so normal after what happened? Was she so unconcious that she "never knew a thing"? I find this stretching the limits of reality. (although, I must admit I've never even considered such events unfolding in hospitals)

    3. Why did his friend visit him in jail? If that was me man, I would move to Siberia-the vibes in that town were so bad, and the drama.....shit. This is why they razed Jeffery Dahmer's apartment building!

    4. To Almodovar's credit, he made a masterpiece.
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    Here are some possible answers to your questions:

    1. I think he REALLY did it ... that night when he was massaging her. It was set up as a seduction scene: Benigno makes Alicia up (no pun intended, although it would be appropriate here -- I meant that he puts make-up on her), he massages her. Then he starts to tell her about the silent movie he saw. You see excerpts from the silent movie. It's during that metonymic montage, when the shrunken man literally dives into his lover's vagina, that we can assume it takes place, I think.
    I can understand why you think it's ethically problematic to film a rape scene so tenderly, but I don't think the point here is to justify the rape. Although, uh, I don't know what exactly the point is. The cop-out answer would be that Almodovar wants to give us Benigno's perspective on the moment. Benigno's self-delusion is so complete, right, that he sees nothing wrong with "making love" to a comatose girl (or with marrying her).

    2. I agree with you that verisimilitude is definitely not this movie's
    strong suit. I think we're supposed to assume that she only regained conscious after giving birth. Remember that moment during the intermission at the theater, when Marco chats with Alicia while her teacher goes to get water? When they go back into the theater, Alicia's teacher pulls Marco aside to find out what he said to Alicia. She's almost panicky. I think you can infer from her urgency that she's worried Marco TOLD Alicia something of which Alicia was (blissfully) ignorant. But you don't know the extent of her ignorance.

    3. The complicity between Marco and Benigno is one of the mysteries of this movie, and I'm not really sure what's going on. It might stem partially from the fact that Marco wanted to be able to project the same things onto Lydia that Benigno was able to project onto Alicia. (It's precisely because Marco actually DID know Lydia before her coma that he's unable to do this. Lydia isn't a blank page for him.)
    There's a strong sexual current between Marco and Benigno, made particularly explicit when Marco visits Benigno in prison. There's talk of pretending Marco is Benigno's boyfriend so that they can be granted permission to meet in a private room in the prison. Benigno says something about not having embraced many people in his life, then they "touch" hands through the glass. This is some kind of consummation there.

    - Marina

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    Thanks for your insight Marina

    I had a strong feeling he did it, but I certainly don't sympathize with him. If it was my daughter or sister, I would have banned that retard from the room. His "massages" were a little uncomfortable for me to watch-you have this heavy feeling of dread that something BAD is going to happen.
    Pedro is agile at trying to present the nurse in a "he loves her, so it's all right" light, but morality rears it's head for me and makes me hate that guy more than the prison guard in The Green Mile who "didn't know the sponge was supposed to be wet". At the end of the movie I was elated that he was going to rot in prison. I saw a lady crying when I exited the theatre. (You know when you wanna ask someone something but it is not possible?....)
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