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Chris Knipp
12-12-2009, 07:49 PM
[This is a review from a NYFF viewing that originally appeared (http://www.filmwurld.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=23009#post23009) in the Filmleaf Festival Coverage section. Also published in slightly different form on Cinescene. (http://www.cinescene.com/knipp/antichrist.htm)]

LARS VON TRIER: ANTICHRIST (2009)

Authentic horror? Stunner from Lars

It's been said (and he confirms) that the Danish cinematic provocateur and master always makes essentially the same film, but Von Trier's Antichrist differs from the others in various ways. It has only two characters, a husband (Willem Dafoe) and wife (Charlotte Gainsbourg). As he tells it, Antichrist was his way of finding out, in the wake of the first severe depression of his life, whether he even had the strength to make another film. If he had less control than usual, he counted himself lucky to be able to work. And he was pleased with the result, which he declares to be more instinctive and less calculated than previous efforts. Another new thing is that the cinematography by Anthony Dod Mantle has a glossy, non-Dogme look. And the whole film reads, partly anyway, as coming from a new genre he hasn't played with before: it's a very arty -- psychological and philosophical -- horror movie.

The title "came early," but what it means other than to allude to the fact that von Trier does not believe in God, is uncertain; he insists that Nietzsche's Antichrist has been on his bedside table for 40 years but he has never read it. He points rather to his debt to Strindberg, whose combative couples fascinated him early on. And this is a combative couple, that's for sure.

Also unusual is a Prologue in black and white and slow motion accompanied by a baroque aria, Handel's "Lascio ch'io pianga" ("Let me weep"), during which the couple has sex. Their little boy, Nic, escapes from his crib, opens the door and sees them making love, then walks over to a window and falls out and is killed. Four chapters follow, Grief, Pain (Chaos Reigns), Despair (Gynocide), and The Three Beggars; then an Epilogue. The action takes place in the Pacific Northwest (though it was shot in Europe).

Much of the story is about dominance and submission. The man is a psychotherapist. His wife collapses at the funeral and is hospitalized and sleeps for a long time. The man can't accept the doctor's methods, his use of medications, and insists, against professional principles, on treating his own wife. He takes her through a series of "treatments" that von Trier may think of as forms of "cognitive therapy," but the methodology is fanciful and erratic. At her urging they resort to sex to ease her suffering, which he thinks a bad idea.

Her grief continues, but turns to fear. He persuades her to pinpoint her fear, and its locus seems to be the outdoor, grassy part of a summer cottage in the woods that they call "Eden" where in the year before she was with Nic working alone on a thesis about gynocide, a history of the oppression and killing of women.

In a discussion of this, she tells him she had started to see that women, while wronged by men, contain evil themselves, because they contain nature, and nature embodies evil. The Pain, Despair, and Three Beggars chapters take place out in the woods, where the husband takes his wife, ostensibly to work out her fear and overcome it, in a highly symbolic, beautiful, and terrifying nature in which birthing deer, ravens, a fox, hail, and falling acorns menace and signify. "Nature is Satan's church" is a line the wife speaks, and in some sense the Pacific woods become von Triers' sexual Purgatory and Inferno. Early in the approach to the woods there is a particularly haunting and scary distant shot in extreme slow motion in which the woman is seen crossing a little bridge onto the property where the cabin is, a place that terrifies her.

Despite his persistent voice of reason, it's clear that the husband is something of a sadist and a fool; she says at one point that he was never really interested in her till now, as a patient, an object to toy with. Again they resort to sex as a grim palliative. Eventually she rebels, and takes extreme measures against both her husband and herself. This is where the film swerves toward horror and gore and the masturbation and mutilation that led to boos and walkouts at Cannes. But there were no boos at all and scant walkouts at the Lincoln Center NYFF press and industry screening I watched.

This isn't a film I'm eager to watch again right now but it is perhaps his most beautiful, and one of his strongest, provocations. Obviously there are themes of sexuality, gender roles, dominance and submission, and nature. The apparent (and largely convincing) narrative sequence is partly a ruse. The slo-mo prologue introduces the Primal Scene, but the guilt is the couple's. And the guilt extends to unease about sex itself. The wife assumes it as hers, but may eventually shift the blame to her husband. The child's death may be a pretext for introducing the theme of melancholy, the emotion the director himself was working out of. The action in the woods may seem to result from the husband-therapist's efforts to "cure" his wife of her grief and fear, but turns into an enactment of more primal and inexplicable fears and horrors. In a Q&A conducted long distance via Skype (Lars hates flying; anyway avoids coming to the US) the director seemed extremely candid; but can one really believe him? and also sometimes wicked and playful. He is justifiably grateful to Gainsbourg and Dafoe, who do excellent work. Interestingly, he said the slickness of the images wasn't quite what he had wanted -- the dialogue scenes in particular he'd wanted to have more a "documentary" look to distinguish them from the more symbolic animal and nature scenes -- and he's somewhat apologetic about taking the old device of slow motion photography from the "toy box," but he typically pretested that he was just glad he'd been able to make a film. And so should we be.

Typically, a viewing of a Trier film immediately leads one into lively speculations about what he's up to and how the themes dovetail or conflict. But this time they're particularly well embodied in a host of lush visuals and intense scenes with the actors that are as aesthetically satisfying as they are disturbing, like a panorama by Hieronymus Bosch. Von Trier's problem is that he's so manipulative and intellectual that even his most emotional moments feel too detached and premeditated to be convincing, but to some extent the look and feel of Antichrist allow it to escape that pitfall. In any case according to his own account his mental state made this film less calculating than previous ones and more instinctive and drawn from dreams.

Shown at Cannes, Toronto, and other festivals, seen as part of the New York Film Festival at Lincoln Center 2009. IFC is the US distributor. Gainsbourg got the Best Actress prize at Cannes, and von Trier was nominated for Best Director there.

Antichrist has been in limited US release since October 23rd, mostly in October and November, but also in December (Florida, Nebraska, other locations) and continuing into early 2010. You can get the national IFC release schedule here. (http://www.ifcfilms.com/films/antichrist)

oscar jubis
12-13-2009, 10:42 AM
I like how this movie looks (great cinematography, art direction, etc.). I admire the courage of the actors. I also find the premise interesting. But Antichrist is as much about sensation and spectacle as 2012 (which has the same metacritic score as 49). And just as silly.

I watched it twice because the visuals make it worth watching twice and because after the first viewing I could not believe how boring and stupid it was (perhaps because Trier's filmography has trained me to expect better). A second viewing convinced me thoroughly.

Audiences here shunned it like the plague. At the theater where I work we paired it with 35 SHOTS OF RUM and I am happy to report the French film had almost twice as many viewers.

Chris Knipp
12-13-2009, 11:23 AM
Well, that's that, for you. I am a little surprised that you think ANTICHRIST simple enough to dismiss as "silly." 2012 is a very conventional genre film. ANTICHRIST's approach to the horror genre is quite original, and the boldness and willingness to fail, to be ridiculous, and to offend everyone puts von Trier in a completely different and to me more simpatico category than Roland Emmerich. Emmerich was seeking to appeal to the general popcorn-munching public and von Trier was seeking to go his own way and exclude the popcorn-munchers.

Contrasting ANTICHRIST with 35 RHUMS just because they were showing in the same theater seems pointless, as does the comparison with 2012.I would have expected you as a film scholar to present your views in a context of responses to other Von Trier films. All that really comes through is that you thoroughly appreciated the cinematography and did not like the movie. Have you extravagantly admired Trier's earlier films as so many film buffs have? Why is this a time to abandon him? Has his novelty worn off? Is he doing something so very different? Yes, he is different, in the ways I outlined at the start of my review.

I wouldn't dismiss this kind of filmmaking so easily. Doing so is a luxury we can allow ourselves because of what Von Trier has done before. I like this better than some other work by him. I particularly like some work few seem aware of, such as THE FIVE OBSTRUCTIONS and THE BOSS OF IT ALL. (I've never seen DANCER IN THE DARK.) I think he has much to give us and I hope this bad period (mentally) will not slow him down too much.

This makes me think of a comment made by arsaib on Filmleaf some time ago: that what interested him wasn't what films people liked or disliked, but their reasons for doing so. You don't give enough reasons. Your mere reaction doesn't particularly interest me. I'ts quite a common one. I preferred the reaction of the writer who covered Cannes for Onion AV Club (I'd have to search for his name) who said he thought the film was awful but he loved Von Trier for making it. And he wrote a wonderful little essay to explain that view.

oscar jubis
12-13-2009, 04:39 PM
You totally missed the point of my comparisons and it seems pointless to me to have to repeat myself. So I'll move on to your question regarding Trier's prior films and say that I greatly admire BREAKING THE WAVES, DANCER IN THE DARK, and DOGVILLE. Everything else is worth seeing. ANTICHRIST is my least favorite of his films and I have seen them all. I think the script "sucks", to be vulgarly honest.

Chris Knipp
12-13-2009, 04:57 PM
Yes, I see. I missed the point, and no use explaining? Okay. But you also missed my suggestion that you explain your reasons rather than just opining. Sucks isn't just vulgar,; not really very vulgar any more, but not explanatory.

oscar jubis
12-14-2009, 07:43 PM
You are right. However, I post here for the pleasure of it and I just cannot get myself to give any attention to this film. I think it is rather obvious that the plot/script is not well thought out. It lacks dramatic interest and intellectual rigor. Again, you are right that my post is not explanatory but I have already put the film out of mind.