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Chris Knipp
09-22-2007, 06:10 PM
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Sean Penn: Into the Wild

One hell of a young man

Sean Penn's Into the Wild is a passionate and faithful evocation of Jon Krakauer's book about Chris McCandless. It's the troubling and complex story of a young idealist and seeker who was also a rebellious child and beloved brother who gave away his $24,000 savings to Oxfam after college, went off in an old Datsun and left his family behind, and disappeared for two years wandering the country, only to be found by hunters dead of poisoning and starvation in an abandoned bus in the wilds of Alaska.

It's been said as a criticism of Penn's movie that it isn't as neutral about MCcndless as Krakauers's book. It is true that Emile Hirsch as Chris, who called himself Alexander Supertramp on the road, is such a joyous and appealing character it's hard to focus on the arbitrariness and foolhardiness of the young man. Hirsch gives his all. He has shown his knack for playing bad good boys—particularly in The Dangerous Lives of Altar Boys and Lords of Dogtown—and for playing wild misfits—in the little seen The Mudge Boy. This is the first great role he's had, and he deserves it. His work is a wonderful melding of "negative capability" and generosity. It comes naturally to him to embody exuberance, boldness, and joy. If there was something off-putting or stern in the real-life McCandless, it's not very noticeable in Hirsch. But Hirsch's enthusiasm makes sense of the great adventure and self-discovery this story recounts. (Sadly, McCandless never seemed more ready to embrace life, and to overcome all his doubts about people and family, than right near his end.) All the faults and mistakes McCandless made are there in the story as Penn tells it; if he has altered facts (and necessarily left some out), he hasn't done so to make the young man's plans seem clearer or his choices wiser, and the movie is replete with specific detail.

Into the Wild, true, is itself a little on the wild and loud side, with its occasionally obtrusive Eddie Vedder soundtrack, it's insanely vivid characters—like the young Danish couple on the banks of the Colorado, Vince Vaughan's intense, grinning grain farmer, Hal Holbrook's fabulously sad, shut-down old widower. There is another kind of overload in the occasional use of split screens. But it all unfolds very much as Jon Krakauer's book does, with interludes at the "magic bus" where Chris met his doom constantly intercut with episodes from his travels earlier during his two wander-years. And incredible episodes they are: roaming with a warm hippie couple; illegally and hair-raisingly running the Colorado rapids in a kayak; working in the big grain elevator and loving it; riding the rails and loving that too, till he's caught and beaten; escaping a flophouse in L.A.; staying with old Mr. Franz (Holbrook), learning from him how to engrave leather belts and persuading him to climb a mountain; and then off into the hostile snow country with a big back pack and sheer will. Many voiceovers from Chris's sister add more about the sibling relationship than was in the book; the family "fearlessly" cooperated in the film-making. McAndless's stern NASA honcho dad (William Hurt) and uptight mother (Marcia Gay Harden) are as unappealing as he saw them, but are not overdrawn—or underrepresented. Among other things Sean Penn's film is a remarkable balancing act.

It's obvious this story had to be made into a movie, and it's hard to imagine how anyone could have done it better than Penn and his fine cast. All Penn's directorial efforts have been heartfelt and earnest, but this of his films thus far is his greatest artistic success and has the widest appeal. Into the Wild is a good balance of the emotionally wrenching and the thought-provoking. It contains so many themes and poses so many questions—about youth, about time, about responsibility. Chris isn't to be confused with Herzog's Grizzly Man. He's aware of the danger of nature. It's just that he has the hubris of daring to approach it with too little knowledge and experience, knowing the risk, and taking it. And indeed he might have made it and gotten back out, but for two or three terrible mistakes. Nature is unforgiving.

Chris McAndless was unforgiving too. But if he read the romantic Bible of his own life lived in those intense two years and lived to tell of them, the film suggests, he would have learned to love and forgive. He was bright, talented, passionate about life, a seeker or rare moral fervor who read and thought and recorded all that happened in those last days. His death was sadly premature. But there are signs—they're clear in Krakauer's book—that he made an impact on the world he inhabited and the people he met. Vince Vaughan's character shouts, "You're one hell of a young man. You're one hell of a young man!" He died terribly alone. But maybe the tree that falls in the forest is heard after all. "Quant'e' bella giovanezza," goes an Italian renaissance verse, "Che si fugge tuttavia." How beautiful is youth, which flees straightaway. McCandless' story embodies those lines.

Into the Wild seems more moving and thought-provoking than any other recent film, and may be destined to become some kind of classic—an Easy Rider, as Scott Foundas of the Voice and others have said, for our times. It's about society and nature, about family, about idealism and aloneness; most of all it's about the dangerous, heartbreakingly brief and beautiful romanticism of youth. In those two years, Chris McCandless lived a whole, remarkable, life. And Sean Penn has captured those two years for us.

oscar jubis
10-08-2007, 01:39 PM
INTO THE WILD (2007)

Sean Penn reaches artistic maturity with Into the Wild his fourth film as writer/director. It's based partly on Jon Krakauer's book about Chris McCandless' 2 year continental odyssey. Upon graduating from Emory University in 1990, the 22 year-old McCandless gave away his educational fund to charity, destroyed his credit cards, and drove west in search of adventure and self-realization. He ditched his old Datsun after it was damaged by a flash flood and made his way across the plains of South Dakota, the canyons of Arizona and the Northern California woods before heading for Alaska.

McCandless had dreamed for years of the opportunities for solitary contemplation and survivalist adventure available in the Alaskan wilderness. Whereas the book starts at the very end of the journey, Penn wisely manufactures some mystery by opening the film a few months earlier, with McCandless' discovery of an abandoned bus near Denali National Park. Into the Wild then cuts to the young man's last dinner with his middle-class parents and sister Clarice. Penn builds the narrative along these two temporal tracks, dismisses the novel's autobiographical passages (which include Krakauer's detailed telling of his attempt to climb Devil's Thumb in Alaska) and, in a bold stroke, turns Clarice into a second narrator. The strategy allows Penn to provide a backstory for McCandless and shed light into his family. The young woman's observations about how the sudden and secretive departure of the young man affected his family, who attempted and failed to make contact with him, are particularly effective. What emeges is a polemic about McCandless' decision not to contact his family and a more rounded portrait of the protagonist than Krakauer's.

Penn has also chosen to partition McCandless' voyage into chapters, with titles that coincide with the life stages of a person. Or in this case, a "persona", as McCandless renamed himself Alexander Supertramp to signify the new identity he was creating after breaking away from the empty materialism and hypocrisy of middle-class society. His encounters with a number of people on the road provide a variety of new experiences richly detailed in the film_Catherine Keener and Hal Holbrook shine among a stellar cast of secondary characters. But the film is perched on the shoulders of young Emile Hirsch, in a career-making performance characterized by total commitment and complete immersion into the challenging role.

Into the Wild features original songs by Eddie Vedder used not solely to highlight certain emotions, but to provide texture and to move the narrative along. The arresting visuals come courtesy of Eric Gautier, among the most accomplished cinematographers in contemporary cinema. Gautier has lensed some of the most impressive French films in recent years (Gabrielle, Kings and Queen, etc.) but it was probably his landscape work in The Motorcycle Diaries that prompted Sean Penn to request his services. What Penn and crew have realized is that rare movie that manages to lavishly feed the senses, the mind and the soul of the viewer.

Chris Knipp
10-08-2007, 02:05 PM
Good that you emphasized Gautier, whom I neglected to credit. I'm also glad you liked Hirsch, whom I"ve been following and hoped would get such a good role. I would not have said "partly based" on the book, just "based." They feel pretty close to each other, to me.

oscar jubis
10-08-2007, 08:35 PM
I thought I had done a decent job describing the crucial differences between book and script... It's my understanding that the material about McCandless' parents and sister, which is highly significant, is not on the book. Penn practically makes Clarice the second most important character in the film because certain portions are seen entirely from her point of view. Penn also deviates from the book in crucial ways, particularly in the way the narrative is structured.

Have you heard about the new documentary about McCandless' directed by Ron Lamothe and titled The Call of the Wild? It apparently provides evidence challenging some statements and conclusions in Krakauer's book. It screened recently at the SF Documentary Film Fest. I hope to get a chance to watch it someday.

I think you are in the majority among reviewers of the film who perhaps felt that knowledge of McCandless' fate is so widespread that to reveal it would not constitute a spoiler. Scott Foundas actually opens his review by providing this information!, which Penn chose to keep from viewers until the very end.

I thought your third paragraph does an excellent job describing the people he meets along the way so I chose not to dwell on them.

It'd be interesting to have mouton expand on his peculiarly negative take on the film (Toronto thread) but perhaps he's not inclined to do so.

Chris Knipp
10-09-2007, 08:00 AM
You are right about Candice. And you can certainly argue that the movie makes a lot of changes. Nonetheless given the credits, I'd say "based on" rather than "partly based on" initially, and then make my qualifications later.

It will be interesting to see the documentary. Since nothing was known about McCandless's last years initially, the information is partly controversial, for sure. I had not seen mouton's comments on the film--which I personally loved. However this statement I think is sufficient to explain his negative reaction:
As McCandless, Hirsch is strong and mature but his character, as noble as he is for pursuing greater meanings in life, is not likable for the emotional pain he caused, especially when it is apparent that he is only running away from his own truths. The same bias against young McCandless dominates David Denby's unfavorably judgment of the film in The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2007/10/08/071008crci_cinema_denby) . I would tend to judge a man of 21-23 less harshly, especially one of such high ideals who impressed so many of the people he met. Anyway in both cases I think the reviewer is confusing the merits of the subject with the merits of the film; and I don't see much justification for finding the film "pretentious" and "overly dramatic" or to think that the imagery overbalances the content.

oscar jubis
10-10-2007, 08:44 AM
I think you're absolutely correct. I see the reviewers basing their opinion of the film on their dislike of the protagonist. You obviously meant to write: "I would tend to judge a man of 21-23 less harshly". I would too. But I ask, what did McCandless do to deserve such animosity from the reviewers? As far as I'm concerned all he did wrong was overestimate his ability to survive alone in remote Alaska (a park ranger said that if he had a map of the area he could have easily gotten help) and refusing to contact his family (a callous, perhaps cruel, decision which Penn exposes by having Clarice explain its detrimental effect on her and the parents). Penn is clearly not letting McCandless off the hook for that, is he? He even includes a scene in which a pained William Hurt kneels in the middle of the street and crumbles to the ground!!! How comes these same reviewers don't raise the same objections about films in which the protagonist is a serial killer or a vigilante?

Chris Knipp
10-10-2007, 09:01 AM
Indeed. When you say "It's my understanding" about the differences between the book and the film,
It's my understanding that the material about McCandless' parents and sister, which is highly significant, is not on the book. Penn practically makes Clarice the second most important character in the film. . . Valid point, but are you implying you haven't read the book? It's not important. Clearly you have well researched the differences between book and movie. But the only thing is that you can't say how the book made you feel vs. how the film does. It my case, having read the book, I would say the film gives me the same general feelings of the complexity of the relationships and the moral issues. The book gave me a feeling of the coldness of relations between Chris and his parents, even if there are more details about them in the movie. What is really new is the further input from the family especially his sister. I admire Denby's writing, which is assured,clear and elegant, but he does adopt a grumpy old man posture at times, and he can even be mean. I consider his praise of CRASH and excusing the faults of IN THE VALLEY OF ELAH a sign of his unreliability. Of course it's all a matter of taste, but I like good arguments to back up taste. To finally dismiss IN THE THE WILD because of unkind judgments of the young man is questionable.

You're right that probably if McCandless hadn't died up there he coudlnt'be judged so harshly--of course we wouldn't even know anything about him. The book shows (the mnovie doesn't) that McCandless might have gottenh out, he just went in the wrong directionj, to a place where the water was impassable. It was also a small stroke of terrible luck that he mistook a poisonous plant for an edible one that looks almost exactly the same. Otherwise he'd have survived.

His rejection of his family was temporary. It was cruel, but it was not untypical of many young men. Most get a chance to reconcile later. Chris didn't.

mouton, ou es-tu?

oscar jubis
10-10-2007, 09:19 AM
Indeed, I'm implying I haven't read the book, only an excerpt or two and a description of its contents. But then again, I haven't compared how the book and film made me feel, just the differences in content and how Penn gives Clarice a direct "voice" to address us.

There's considerable debate about what exactly caused McCandless to die. Krakauer himself amended his original text in this regard and, apparently, the new Lamothe documentary presents new evidence based on an analysis of what he ate in Alaska (which was painstakingly documented by him in his journal), his body weight at the time of death, etc.

I agree with your comments about a young man's rejection of family being age-appropiate and often temporary.

Chris Knipp
10-10-2007, 10:46 AM
Didn't he die of poisoning and then starvation? The poisoning made him so ill he couldn't eat, and the herbal/plant guide he used said the plant he ate caused death from starvation after poisoning, as shown in the film. He because too weak to forage and unable to eat? Or is there some other possibility?

tabuno
11-11-2007, 01:44 AM
I'm only going to state my ambivalence about this movie's overall qualitative achievement and leave the rest of my still reeling mind for a future commentary. I have just recently come back from seeing this emotionally, overwrought movie that supposedly tugs at one's heartstrings and calls for the imperative that it must be great because of the themes, the sad melancholy reflection, and gorgeous photography, yet when I get around to it, I found a lot wanting in this movie.

tabuno
11-12-2007, 05:25 PM
Recently I went to see Ben Affleck's directorial effort in Gone Baby Gone. When contrasting Mr. Affleck's effort with Mr. Penn's I had the distinct feeling that Mr. Penn had aquired all sort of fun and interesting cinematic approaches during his years of filmmaking. Yet when I watched Gone Baby Gone I was struck by the primary focus on storytelling not impression-making that Mr. Penn's Into the Wild contained. I don't think Mr. Penn has yet learned to craft his skills and abilities into a more reasonable package of filmmaking processes that allows the story be to experienced for itself, not for the breathtaking artsy and dazzling array of pretty scenes and techniques - split screens. Into the Wild seemed to be as much about Sean Penn's abilities as the story itself as opposed to Gone Baby Gone in which the terrific script co-written by Ben Affleck ultimately resulted in one of the most powerful, unsettling scripts of the year and its presentation on the screen is in many ways more powerful than Into the Wild and becomes even more haunting and memorable.

oscar jubis
11-16-2007, 11:54 AM
I absolutely do not think that Eric Gautier's gorgeous images detract in any way from story and characterization; these are the landscapes that beckon McCandless and they need to seduce the viewer in order to replicate their effect on the tragic protagonist.
Having said that, I'm replying because of your comments about Gone, Baby, Gone, which flew under my radar. There's a single theater here still showing it, and only twice a day. I'll do my best to check it out, based on your comments. Perhaps you should open a new thread and post a review, as to call attention to it.

tabuno
11-16-2007, 06:43 PM
Oscar Jubis:


I absolutely do not think that Eric Gautier's gorgeous images detract in any way from story and characterization; these are the landscapes that beckon McCandless and they need to seduce the viewer in order to replicate their effect on the tragic protagonist.

Sean Penn has used the camera in INTO THE WILD to reproduce some amazing photographic scenes that could easily win still life awards. Yet, the best filmmakers are about simplicity and story, and discretion. When I see scene after scene after scene of great photography I lose track of the story. If, however, the intent of the great, mesmerizing scenes were to somewhat communicate to the audience how McCandless was seduced by these images, it was lost on me. The gorgeous scenes and McCandless scenes were disconnected and such lack of interaction between the seductive landscapes and McCandless only suggests that Sean Penn perhaps was seduced by his own creative photography and loss sight of the story itself. Personally, I would have preferred to see how the gorgeous images seduced McCandless not us the viewer. The story is not about us as an audience, but about the experience of the main character with his environment that Sean Penn has placed the character, and while there was a significant amount of that, the additional scenes were more for artistic benefit that did not necessarily contribute to the movie.

Chris Knipp
11-17-2007, 02:19 PM
i have not been able to see Gone, Baby Gone on my ovedrsea sojourn but want to, for several readons. I would like to see what Affleck can do as a director, and I was impressed by Casey's work in The Assassination of Jesse James and would like to see how he does in a second outing that features him.

Not everybody likes Into the Wild, but i am incluned to go with my gut feeling and say it looks like one of the year's best US films to me. / i see it has a Metacritic rating of 73. It's funny how many great films wind up with a socre in the seventies there. IT sometimes just comes down to a p;opularity rating. Weerasathakul's Synndromes and a Century, not my huge choice but a favorite of film buffs, gets a Metacritic 71. . .Jesse James 68. I won't draw any conclusions. . .

oscar jubis
11-17-2007, 07:53 PM
Re: Gone Baby Gone

If there's one thing I expected from a Ben Affleck movie set in Boston is a realistic depiction of the environs; a specific and compelling sense of place. I wasn't disappointed. The use of non-actor locals and shooting in real locations are obvious assets. You can almost smell the spilled beer during a couple of bar scenes.

The plot, based on a book by Dennis Lehane, involves the abduction of a neglected little girl. It's hard not to care. The narrative, structured as a mystery-thriller, gets increasingly more convoluted and intriguing. Lamentably, every twist during the second half of the film is more illogical than the preceding one. There are some serious lapses here. The next paragraph contains SPOILERS.

Two of the most obvious ones: a private dick (Casey Affleck) not even being arrested for shooting an unarmed, kneeling bad guy in the back of the head. Another involves a cop going into a crowded bar with a funny mask to kill someone about to give information to Affleck. There are others but perhaps you won't notice until you think about it later, when you're not focused on keeping up with the narrative. The movie is being praised partly because of an inherent moral dilemma posed when Affleck must choose between two divergent options. However, this happens at the very end of the film. It would have been infinitely more compelling from an ethical and moral viewpoint to make the cop played by Morgan Freeman a more central character, perhaps a protagonist. Albeit difficult for any filmmaker, it also would have been interesting to witness some of the exceedlingly difficult (and unseen) adaptation any child would experience in this scenario. (END of spoilers)

From the point of view of characterization, Affleck's partner and sidekick Angie is totally wasted; she's given little to do. Nice cast all around though, with Ed Harris, Amy Ryan (as the kid's druggie mom) and Amy Madigan (as her aunt Bea) most memorable.

Chris Knipp
11-18-2007, 05:05 AM
Good to know. I'll comment when I see it. Isn't Ed Harris more prominent than you indicate? i have read that the local flavor is very authentic. Isn't this from another Dennis Lahane novel, not as good as Mystic River? The NYer critic says so. Evidently Ben Afflick does not disgrace himself, and deals with a world he knows pretty well.

Chris Knipp
11-18-2007, 05:05 AM
We should have a Gone Baby Gone thread really.

oscar jubis
11-18-2007, 10:34 AM
Like I say in my opening paragraph, the local flavor is indeed authentic. The character played by Ed Harris is somewhat prominent, slightly more so than his partner and much more than their boss (Morgan Freeman). Affleck does not "disgrace himself" but I'm not a fan of the film. I started the post intending to write a single paragraph and I ended up with something approaching a proper review. If Tab hadn't mentioned it, I might not have seen it and would not have written about it. Gone Baby Gone has some preposterous twists and approaches a compelling story from the least interesting (to me) angle. It has redeeming features, I'm willing to admit that much. As well as my impression that critics and audiences, generally speaking, like it more than I do.

As far as mystery-thrillers go, the Sidney Lumet film is clearly superior, and the Coen bros. film is apparently pretty good (you've seen it). I feel apprehensive about another movie with a prominent psychopathic killer though. I'll watch it soon. Gone Baby Gone is being phased out of theaters fairly quickly. You might want to watch it as soon as you return, if you're interested.

I didn't respond to your comment that Into the Wild "looks like one of the year's best US films". Right now, it would definitely make my Top 10 (English-language films).

Chris Knipp
11-18-2007, 01:28 PM
i get your point--you are not in love with Gone Baby Gone. I recognize the merits of Lumet's new one, and can imagine they might be superior, though i have a serious reservation about the time structure of the Before the Devil scenario. I just don't like it. i know the acting is strong and the material is alive. Lumet is still a fine craftsman and his cast have given their best.

Looks like you are approaching No Country for Old Men with a prejudice. It is way more than "pretty good" and in fact is another of the year's best American films. It is a terrific film even if it has an element of soullesness that is not ever missing from the Coens. This is one of their best, and at their best they're pretty terrific American filmmakers. You ought not to think of it is 'another film with a psychopathic killer." It is not that. It is fundamentally a novel by one of our finest fiction writers, Cormac McCarthy, and it is a very faithful reproduction of that book, complete with the inimitable dialogue.

Glad we agree on Into the Wild, which I suspecrted we do.

Chris Knipp
11-18-2007, 01:44 PM
on metacritic, Into the Wild has a lower score than American Gangster. What do we make of that?

oscar jubis
11-18-2007, 02:41 PM
Not a big Coens fan, and bored with characters who are killers; the most grossly over-represented group in contemporary cinema relative to their proportion of the population.

Chris Knipp
11-19-2007, 06:59 AM
yes but one has to judge things on their own merits nonetheless as much as one can and this is great stuff and the killer is not just another from some mold but part of a Cormac McCarthy novel. I keep pointing that out and you keep ignoring its significance.

As for being a Coens fan, that would be hard in view of the crap they've dished out over the past decade, but on the other hand they've clearly produced wonderful stuff too, and this is of that vein.

oscar jubis
11-19-2007, 07:26 AM
Well, the fact that my expectations are limited creates the possibility I'll be surprised by the film. I expect to like it as much as Miller's Crossing, to be specific. The Coens must have overcome their tendency to caricature and feel superior to their characters and, I hope, kept their cynicism and nihilism in check (otherwise why all this hype). These characteristics have limited the worth of their films (in general) since their debut. But most of their films, even some recent ones like The Man Who Wasn't There are well worth seeing. I have no opinion of the writer of the source novel. I tend to read older titles, not contemporary fiction. Currently, I'm reading Sartre.

Chris Knipp
11-19-2007, 07:58 AM
McCarthy goes back to the Seventies. Saying you don't read "contemporay fiction" is no excuse for overlooking one of the major American writers of the last four decades.

The cynicism and nihilism of the Coes is absorbed into the fatalism and pessimism of McCarthy's vision.

I would rate this higher than Miller's Crossing, which i found tedious. The Man Who Wasn't there may have been "wqorth seeing" but it is also worth forgetting. No one would want to watch Intolerable Cruelty or The Ladykillers again on a bet. But the Coens still have an impressive filmography, even though I personally only really, really like Blood Simple and Barton Fink, and now this one.