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oscar jubis
05-17-2006, 06:48 AM
Favorite English-Language Films of 1993
1. THE BOYS OF ST. VINCENT (John N. Smith)
2. GROUNDHOG DAY (Harold Ramis)
-- WITTGENSTEIN (Derek Jarman)
4. IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER (Jim Sheridan)
-- NAKED (Mike Leigh)
-- THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS (Tim Burton)
-- THE PIANO (Jane Campion)
-- RAINING STONES (Ken Loach)
9. CALENDAR (Atom Egoyan)
-- SCHINDLER'S LIST (Steven Spielberg)
-- SHORT CUTS (Robert Altman)
Best Documentary:IT'S ALL TRUE (Orson Welles-Richard Wilson)
Runners Up
Bad Boy Bubby, Dottie Gets Spanked, Ruby in Paradise, The Secret Garden, The Remains of the Day, Matinee, King of the Hill, Menace II Society, A Perfect World, Dazed and Confused.
oscar jubis
05-17-2006, 09:22 AM
1. THE PUPPETMASTER (Hou Hsiao Hsien/Taiwan)
2. THE BLUE KITE (Tian Zhuanzhuang/China)
3. FAREWELL MY CONCUBINE (Chen Kaige/China)
4. ABRAHAM'S VALLEY (Manoel de Oliveira/Portugal)
-- THREE COLORS:BLUE (Chen Kaige/China)
6. LATCHO DROM (Tony Gatlif/France)
-- THE MAN BY THE SHORE (Raoul Peck/Haiti)
-- MY FAVORITE SEASON (Andre Techine/France)
9. THE BIRTH OF LOVE (Philippe Garrel/France)
-- THE DEAD MOTHER (J. Bajo Ulloa/Spain)
-- THE SCENT OF GREEN PAPAYA (Trah Anh Hung/Vietnam)
Runners Up
Faraway, So Close!, 32 Short Films about Glenn Gould, The Women From the Lake of Scented Souls, The Red Squirrel, Fassbinder: I Don't Just Want You to Love Me, The Beginning and the End, Cronos, The Wedding Banquet.
HorseradishTree
05-17-2006, 02:38 PM
My pick would probably have to be The Piano. With great performances by Keitel, Hunter, and Neill, a haunting score by Michael Nyman, and fantastic use of color in the cinematography, this is one of my favorite films of all time. Playing Nyman's pieces on the piano is quite difficult but very enjoyable.
I think I've voiced my opinion on Dazed and Confused before. I viewed it at the exact right time in my life and it's always stuck with me. It's sort of a time capsule of the 70s, but at the same time is eternal in its themes.
oscar jubis
05-17-2006, 10:52 PM
*Let's not forget to mention Anna Paquin, who became the second youngest person to win an Oscar for her performance in The Piano.
*I'm glad you qualified "capsule of the 70s" with "sort of" because, even though the film gets period specifics right, it's set on an extraordinary day (the last day of school). You wouldn't figure for instance, by watching Dazed and Confused that 70s highschoolers spent more time studying than teens today. This is not meant as criticism of the movie, but I wouldn't advise you to draw conclusions about 70s youth based on it. One single scene rings false: the scene of the hazing of the girls in a parking lot. It's choreographed into contrivance. Find post I wrote after last viewing here: Dazed and Confused (http://www.filmwurld.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11769#post11769)
HorseradishTree
05-20-2006, 05:17 PM
I guess it's just better to say that the film is really more about high school than being set in the 70s. I watched it right before I went into high school, and as I have traveled through this bizarre educational establishment through the years, I've really found a majority of people to be affiliated with these, for lack of a better word, archetypes of characters. I've never met a 20-something fella with a moustache that parties with high-schoolers, though.
oscar jubis
05-20-2006, 09:08 PM
I agree that D&C's characters are archetypes and that the majority of kids one would meet at a high school would have some affiliation with one or more of these. The number and variety of characters involved facilitates this process of identification. As a matter of fact, I see a lot of myself in at least one of the film's characters.
oscar jubis
08-24-2009, 04:48 PM
Rolf de Heer's controversial BAD BOY BUBBY, which was not released theatrically in the US due to scenes depicting animal cruelty and incest, has found a place just inside my 1993 Top 10. This is a fable about a man-child who manages to escape the dungeon where his mother has held him prisoner for 35 years and how he finds a place in the outside world (more specifically, Adelaide, in South Australia) with the help of a rock band and a nurse named Angel. Rolf de Heer (THE TRACKER, THE QUIET ROOM, 10 CANOES) is, along with Jane Campion, the best Australian filmmaker of the past 20 years.
BAD BOY BUBBY was recently released on a 3-disc Blu-Ray set in both the US and the UK.
oscar jubis
01-17-2014, 01:39 AM
I revised my list of favorites of 1993 after back to back viewings of Derek Jarman's magnificent biopic WITTGENSTEIN. It's about 70 minutes long and I think it's his best film. It is now listed as #2 in my English-language list. I'd like to know if anyone reading this has seen it, and has an opinion about it.
Chris Knipp
01-18-2014, 12:08 PM
I don't think I liked it but I'll take another look at it. I take Wittgenstein too seriously to see him as a campy spectacle. I do like Jarman but not unreservedly; I do value his originality and his splendid images and atmosphere.
oscar jubis
03-12-2014, 09:49 PM
Trust me, I also take him seriously and understand his importance. This is a really good film in my opinion, it gives a sense of the trajectory of his life and explains the arguments and claims that continue to be so influential to this day.
cinemabon
03-13-2014, 01:54 AM
While Wittgenstein had an influence on the subject of philosophy, the film attempts to convey most of that complex thought process through a series of short scenes or vignettes that are performed in less of a film modality and more as if this was a stage show in the theater. Actors move about on sets that are singularly lit and the acting is often nothing but reading lines to the air. While colorful at times, this kind of "art" film becomes something of a bore as we jump around Wittgenstein's life told in various stages by a little boy or an adult actor.
Here is a link to see the entire film on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WzqyO-wIMI
Here is another link to hear a lecture on the life of Wittgenstein: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNaBRR-XeAs
Wittgenstein was a protégé of Bertrand Russell - here is a link to a Russell interview where he mentions Wittgenstein: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZv3pSaLtY
I am a bigger fan of William James than I am of Wittgenstein.
Chris Knipp
03-13-2014, 06:29 AM
I did rewatch Jarmon's WITTGENSTEIN to consider Oscar's statement that it's his best film. It is good, very intelligent, and I like the schematic, Brechtian presentation. It seems like something that might be presented on a very much more intelligent kind of television than one gets in the USA. Cinematically I still prefer Caravaggio, though. I don't so much see that he has a "best film." Caravaggio is the best known one, the one that got the most commercial distribution, and books about its making. And its making is fascinating, a feverish, inventive process Jarmon chronicled in notebooks.
Yes indeed Wittgenstein was a protege of Bertrand Russell. But he surpassed him and has become in pure philosophy now a more famous figure than Russell. Russell was a great man though, and crusader for just causes, particularly pacifism, who was hugely important in his time.
One should bear in mind that one of the important reasons why Derek Jarmon chose to make a film about Wittgenstein was the man's homosexuality, which was something that had not been talked about widely during W's lifetime or immediately after.. This is also a reason why Jarmon made a film about Shakespeare's sonnets, and about Caravaggio; Satint Sebastian, Edward II. He was all about gayness. He likes flamboyant figures like Caravaggio and Edward II. Wittgestein is so un-flamboyant, Jarmon has go focus on other characters in his story who ARE flamboyant.
oscar jubis
03-15-2014, 11:00 AM
Caravaggio is great, no doubt. There is a long and fecund tradition of self-conscious use of stylization and theatricality in cinema and Jarman is a major exponent.
I think Chris is absolutely right about Russell and Wittgenstein.
Wittgenstein is easy to discuss because there are only two very different major works, colloquially referred as "the Tractatus" and "the Investigations" released decades apart. It's Investigations that has had a monumental impact on our culture. I have been hugely affected by it. It has changed my understanding of the kind of truth and knowledge we derive from non-scientific methods (like criticism), and the way I view the concept of "genre" which is so important to a film enthusiast. One of his major ideas is that there is no essence to things like words and actions, that the meaning of a word is its usages in ordinary language, and that there are no rules that can help us understand the meaning of an action, that each instance is unique because of context, circumstance, etc. so that everything must be interpreted. Everybody who is involved in any kind of "criticism" owes him a lot because no one has argued with such conviction and authority about its importance and significance.
cinemabon
03-19-2014, 10:39 AM
Haven't I said that all along? (tongue in cheek, of course)
Chris Knipp
05-09-2015, 01:09 PM
(A year later:) Interesting comment, Oscar, that I missed earlier. Wasn't really aware Wittgenstein was thought of as providing a model for film and art criticism though perhaps that should be obvious. Indeed I find there's a recent essay collection on this edited by Richard Allen of NYU and Malcolm Turvey of Sarah Lawrence, both professors of film. Very academic and too expensive to buy though. Wittgenstein liked to go to the movies, but only for distraction.
PS. On your best English-language 1993 list: Boys of St. Vincent is a shocking film. I like Jarman. Name of the Father isn't much. Can't remember It's All True. I hated Naked. I don't like Tim Burton. I don't like Jane Campion. I can't stand Atom Agoyan. Schindler's List is sentimental and manipulative, but has an incredibly powerful sequence. Shortcuts is a great film, vintage Altman.
This was also the year of True Romance and What's Eating Gilbert Grape.
There are some excellent films in your "foreign" list.
oscar jubis
06-28-2017, 09:04 AM
(A year later:) Interesting comment, Oscar, that I missed earlier. Wasn't really aware Wittgenstein was thought of as providing a model for film and art criticism though perhaps that should be obvious. Indeed I find there's a recent essay collection on this edited by Richard Allen of NYU and Malcolm Turvey of Sarah Lawrence, both professors of film. Very academic and too expensive to buy though. Wittgenstein liked to go to the movies, but only for distraction.
PS. On your best English-language 1993 list: Boys of St. Vincent is a shocking film. I like Jarman. Name of the Father isn't much. Can't remember It's All True. I hated Naked. I don't like Tim Burton. I don't like Jane Campion. I can't stand Atom Agoyan. Schindler's List is sentimental and manipulative, but has an incredibly powerful sequence. Shortcuts is a great film, vintage Altman.
This was also the year of True Romance and What's Eating Gilbert Grape.
There are some excellent films in your "foreign" list.
I'm sorry I overlooked your post. I came to Wittgenstein through the writings of the contemporary philosopher I consider a genius: Stanley Cavell, the author of 3 of my favorite books about film criticism and theory (or "anti-theory" as some would call it).
I must reveal that my friends who are philosophers recently watched Jarman's Wittgenstein and sided with your earlier remark referring and objecting to the treatment as "campy spectacle".
Regarding another 1993 release: Ken Loach's latest film Daniel Blake, which I've seen about 6 times, prompted me to watch some of his older films. I know you are a fan of Kes (and who isn't) but I think right now I would tell you that Sweet Sixteen is the most powerful and visceral and 1993's Raining Stones is just as great and it is more enjoyable because it's gritty but so very funny. I have it as "first runner-up" but it's going into the TOP 10 as soon as I edit the founding post.
Chris Knipp
06-28-2017, 03:37 PM
THAT was a while ago, but it's nice that you didn't let it drift away. I could see more of Ken Loach, I'm sure. Glad I'm vindicated on Jarman's Wittgenstein. It has little to do with Wittgenstein, whose thought is worth attempting to understand. I don't know who Stanley Cavell is. I'm not clear on why film theory is worth studying. Art theory, for example, would not interest me. I know (I think) quite a lot about art, but in college a course in aesthetics taught by a well known philosophy professor was a disaster. I wasn't good at it. My paper didn't cut it with him. Modern philosophy is a tough nut to crack. It's fun, sometimes, though. I guess if you get a PdD in film to teach it, film theory is something you are going to be examined on.
I, Daniel Blake touched me. I saw it in Paris before it came here. But I could not bear to watch it six times. That shows an obsessive involvement. I once watched Patrice Chéreau's L'Homme blessé six times - in a theater, over several weeks. I identified in some profound way with parts of it, and found it hypnotic and haunting. I often rewatch all or parts of films I like the style of at home. When I had a screener of the droll Norwegian crime film In Order of Disappearance last year I kept sampling segments of it for days and days, till it expired. I did the same with that Polish film that's like a more fun and sensible Terence Malick film, All Those Sleepless Nights. I kept dipping into my screener of it - till I finally couldn't any more. It seemed magical and dreamy. The opposite of Ken Loach!
oscar jubis
06-28-2017, 05:45 PM
Every frame of a film contains an excess of information. Every frame is the result of so many decisions involving staging, performance, use of the camera, editing, sound mixing, etc. that in order to truly grasp how all the elements work jointly for what purposes, one has to look at a film or a sequence or scene over and over. Some films elicit that level of interest in me. I appreciate your description of how you "consumed" or processed that film from Norway.
You are applying a theory every time you try to say one thing about 2 films or more.
Chris Knipp
06-28-2017, 07:17 PM
Very well, if you say so. You're applying a theory every time you say it might rain. But you're mainly just making a savvy observation, or expressing an opinion. I don't call my opinions theories. I call them taste.
I agree though that watching a sequence over and over enables one to make keen observations. They may be less natural observations, but they are keen.
oscar jubis
06-28-2017, 10:58 PM
Very well, if you say so. You're applying a theory every time you say it might rain. But you're mainly just making a savvy observation, or expressing an opinion. I don't call my opinions theories. I call them taste.
I'm being clear and specific. I wrote that a theory is involved, consciously or not, whenever one says "one thing about 2 films or more. Anytime you say something that applies to more than one film,you are associating those 2 or more things and whenever one does that, there is a theoretical underpinning for the relationship you claim the 2 or more things have and the significance and repercussion of that association.
Chris Knipp
06-29-2017, 08:44 AM
Maybe. But I prefer to say I'm expressing my taste, and that my approach is untheoretical. Maybe this is just because I haven't studied "film theory." So if I follow any theories, I don't know what they are. I'd be surprised to find out, like Moliere's Bourgeois Gentilhomme who was astonished to learn that all along he had been speaking in "prose."
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