hengcs
03-16-2005, 10:45 PM
Well, Oscar has given a review here:
http://www.filmwurld.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1214&perpage=15&highlight=turtles%20can%20fly&pagenumber=2
If you have NOT watched it, go catch it!!!
;)
I think it deserves a new thread. So, here it is ...
* MAJOR SPOILER *
Quote Oscar, "There are two major aspects of the highly accomplished Turtles Can Fly that can be considered flaws or weaknesses:
1) ...
2)There's a flashback scene showing troops attacking Agrine's village. We see tanks, people running under the rain, Agrine falling on a puddle and being grabbed and pulled by a soldier. She has stated earlier that the toddler (Rega) is "their child". I'm convinced we are to assume that Agrine (played by an actress who looks about 12) was raped about three years ago by Hussein's troops and got pregnant with Rega. But the casting and mise-en-scene make it unclear, vague, even unlikely. Several members of the audience I spoke with appeared confused. One review on-line simply states "Agrine saw her village attacked by soldiers and her parents killed", another states she and her brother are "responsible for a blind toddler", and a respectable Brit website refers to the toddler as "their infant brother". Given the primacy of Agrine's trauma and her relationship to the toddler in the narrative, I consider this a major flaw in an otherwise remarkable film.
Hmmm ... I thought it was clear that the blind toddler was hers after being raped. Why did I say so ...
(i) the scene depicted her being raped, and her brother screamin
(ii) the brother convincing her (in the tent) to learn to like the toddler ...
(there would NOT be so much animosity if the toddler was theirs or their brother; also, there was really NO reason to believe it is hers and her brother's.)
(iii) she asking her brother how she could explain to the toddler when he grew old
END OF SPOILER
http://www.filmwurld.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1214&perpage=15&highlight=turtles%20can%20fly&pagenumber=2
If you have NOT watched it, go catch it!!!
;)
I think it deserves a new thread. So, here it is ...
* MAJOR SPOILER *
Quote Oscar, "There are two major aspects of the highly accomplished Turtles Can Fly that can be considered flaws or weaknesses:
1) ...
2)There's a flashback scene showing troops attacking Agrine's village. We see tanks, people running under the rain, Agrine falling on a puddle and being grabbed and pulled by a soldier. She has stated earlier that the toddler (Rega) is "their child". I'm convinced we are to assume that Agrine (played by an actress who looks about 12) was raped about three years ago by Hussein's troops and got pregnant with Rega. But the casting and mise-en-scene make it unclear, vague, even unlikely. Several members of the audience I spoke with appeared confused. One review on-line simply states "Agrine saw her village attacked by soldiers and her parents killed", another states she and her brother are "responsible for a blind toddler", and a respectable Brit website refers to the toddler as "their infant brother". Given the primacy of Agrine's trauma and her relationship to the toddler in the narrative, I consider this a major flaw in an otherwise remarkable film.
Hmmm ... I thought it was clear that the blind toddler was hers after being raped. Why did I say so ...
(i) the scene depicted her being raped, and her brother screamin
(ii) the brother convincing her (in the tent) to learn to like the toddler ...
(there would NOT be so much animosity if the toddler was theirs or their brother; also, there was really NO reason to believe it is hers and her brother's.)
(iii) she asking her brother how she could explain to the toddler when he grew old
END OF SPOILER